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06-05-2010, 02:04 PM
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Re: UK's first prime ministerial TV debate

Vote for progress - libdems
Vote for workers - labour
Vote for selfishness - tories
Vote for hate - bnp
Vote for earth - greens


     
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06-05-2010, 03:40 PM
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Well I am pretty selfish...and I do like working...and I enjoy progress...but which one is better?

There's only one way to find out....

VOOOOOTE!



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06-05-2010, 05:41 PM
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Vote for progress - libdems
Depends on your definition of progress. "Progressives" in the US were a bunch of totalitarian tyrants, repressing you for your own good, and still are.
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Vote for workers - labour
Depends on your definition of what's good for workers... Do you think that unionization where the only advancement comes from someone older than you dying is good for workers, then maybe.
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Vote for selfishness - tories
Depends on your definition of selfishness.
Your tories though are a bit too big government for me.
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Vote for hate - bnp
I got nothin'
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Vote for earth - greens
Depends on if you believe that being stuck in the stone age is good for the earth. Last I looked, the countries that were the most advanced were also the cleanest environmentally.


     
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06-05-2010, 08:17 PM
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Vote for progress - libdems
Vote for workers - labour
Vote for selfishness - tories
Vote for hate - bnp
Vote for earth - greens
Unfortunately it's not that simple.

I voted for selfishness First time I have ever voted !


     
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07-05-2010, 12:58 PM
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Nick should form a coalition with Labour.. Labour are progressive cons are not. Lab/lib coalition would = over 50% of the votes!

Least it goes to show that more than half of the people in this country are progressives


     
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07-05-2010, 01:08 PM
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Mmmm, so I'm regressive? What was I saying about black and white earlier....? Or is that the BNP lol. Seriously, I would read with interest your belief's on why Lib Lab are progressive and Conservatives are regressive.

Found a nice explanation of the process we now face, explains the archaic system a bit...

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07-05-2010, 01:51 PM
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It's not about you (or others who voted for them) being progressive or not - it's the party. The tory party is not progressive. (Just look at their views on fox hunting/section 28/the BBC etc.)

If people look beyond cameron (who is probably the most 'liberal' tory leader we've ever seen) and look at his cabinet and their policies, they'll see the same nasty, selfish and somewhat backward lot that the tory party has always been.


     
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07-05-2010, 02:40 PM
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That's a whole can of worms your opening there Azz.

Just what is so progressive with Lib and Labour? I personally think a coalition between these 2 is a slightly bad idea better than Labour staying firmly in power tho...anyway, depending on what the Tories finally get they might not need either Lib or Lab to form a majority.

And regarding David Cameron as the most liberal - he's a thatcherite! In fact his other half suggested he should tone it down a little to gain a better public opinion.

With that said I'm pro fox hunting, and section 28 was created in the 80's and about promoting homosexuality in schools - to which David Cameron has apologised for...but still the 80s was a very different time to now. The BBC...meh!


     
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07-05-2010, 03:06 PM
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I'm completely against the murder of ANY animal for pleasure - I find it completely abhorrent - it disgusts me there's no place for it in a civilised society. I could not associate with anyone in any meaningful way if they killed animals for 'fun'.

Section 28 isn't about 'promoting' anything, it's about equality. As one of my favourite author says, a good way to measure how backwards a country is is to look at their views on homosexuality - I think the same applies to people/parties.

I really cannot understand why anyone would vote tory - well actually I can, but I haven't got time to write an essay about it


     
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07-05-2010, 03:26 PM
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It's not just humans that kill for fun...Killer Whales, Foxes, etc. The fox will be killed by other methods they are pests that can destroy chicken livestock rather quickly (and for fun, because they sure as hell don't eat it all or only kill what they need to survive). So what do they do now? They arrange for fake hunts using an already dead fox

Perhaps you need to read Section 28 - http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988..._19880009_en_5

You'll find it says Promoting...not sure how clear you need it to be.


     
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