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16-04-2010, 02:58 AM
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UK's first prime ministerial TV debate

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16-04-2010, 02:59 AM
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Well I thought it was brilliant. And I think it showed us, above everything else, what kind of people they really are - as it would be very difficult for them to put on an act for that long. And the results were somewhat surprising.

Nick Clegg - came across as a decent, intelligent and genuine guy who really really wants to get things sorted. Fairly and for us all. Out of all the three he's the one that instilled trust the most. He has vision and a plan. Confident but not at all arrogant. I really can't say anything bad about him, he's totally gone up in my estimation.. he did a lot better than I thought he would.

Gordon Brown - came across as someone who has his heart in the right place, but lacks direction. He has lots of ideas but no real or well thought out plans. He may want to do the right thing, but I just don't think he knows how. At times I felt sorry for him - he looked as though he was out of his depth. It takes a lot to be Prime Minister, and I just don't think he has what it takes if I were honest. Though when it comes to trust I'd trust him over David Cameron who...

David Cameron - just came across as someone interested in doing right by himself and his super-rich (and I mean the grotesquely rich) friends, trying to twist and 'use' issues that people on the street feel strongly about to win him points. I don't think he did a good job of convincing anyone tho - maybe it's just me but he just came across as disingenuous ...and I'm quite surprised because I thought he was going to come off best tonight. I actually distrust him now and would feel safer with Gordon Brown over him if I had to pick between the two!

So the winner in round one for me was Nick Clegg. I was expecting him to be 'soft' and a pushover - but he was strong and confident (without any hint of arrogance that Cameron had). He was understanding and compassionate (without the naivety that Brown displayed). I think he cares and gives a damn, and is willing to do something about it - least that's how he came across to me.

Blimey - I've never been political in my life can't believe I spent 90 mins watching that lol! But like so many I think we desperately need real change, not more of the same from the other two parties but proper change. Great Britain is indeed great - but the other two parties are just holding us back and screwing things up imo.


     
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16-04-2010, 07:45 AM
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I totally agree with everything you have put Azz, my GF has a degree in politics and she also agrees with all the above. Nick Clegg really shined tonight thought and definitely made me think but when it all boils down to it I think there all just over paid salesmen all trying to sell us the same thing but worded differently.


     
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16-04-2010, 06:06 PM
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I used to think the same - they're all the same, but that's only really been when we thought only one the labservatives would get in. If the polls are to go by anything, the Lib dems are now just 1% behind the tories

I soooo hope Nick Clegg turns out to be a bit like our Obama... the guy no one thought would get in... but does


     
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16-04-2010, 09:46 PM
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I'd like to see Nick Clegg win it too. I watched the conferences on Sky News and his views seemed much better than the a55hole who is David Cameron.


     
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16-04-2010, 10:00 PM
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Btw, if anyone missed it you can watch it in full online here: http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?...p=780100_123_1


     
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17-04-2010, 12:56 AM
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Yes but Nick Clegg's the front man, the salesmen, the media friendly face to the party. As we've seen it's not Gordon Brown or Tony Blair before him that run the country when they are prime minister, it's the advisors, the spin doctors, the people who tell Gordon to keep saying 'a country fair for all'. And half of these advisors work for all parties anyway.

I am really interested in politics and how things should be run. But I hate how politics and democracy works in reality.

All parties come up with a manifesto they think will get them in. Creating the best manifesto for the future of the country isn't the same as this, it has to be populist otherwise you won't get in. Then once you get in you have a years grace to do what you think is actually best for the country and you pray it works before re-election time and the media et all stick the knife in and when it comes to re-election time everyone jumps back to populist policies.

So all you get is playing safe and two parties that are the same yet different, one gets in until everyone gets bored of them and we switch to the other.

So I suppose I would like the Lib Dems to break the cycle and Clegg seems nice enough, could be an absolute disaster though, even more so than the state we're in now!


     
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17-04-2010, 05:51 PM
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I soooo hope Nick Clegg turns out to be a bit like our Obama... the guy no one thought would get in... but does
Actually, pretty much everyone thought he would get in after he beat Hillary Clinton. John McCain is a horrible candidate for president, and the only reason it was even remotely close was Sarah Palin.


     
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17-04-2010, 06:15 PM
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So all you get is playing safe and two parties that are the same yet different, one gets in until everyone gets bored of them and we switch to the other.
That's the exact problem we have here in the US with the republicans and democrats...


     
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19-04-2010, 04:21 PM
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We could always not vote and aim for a revolution!?


     
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